As a general rule, there is normally an identifiable solution and explanation to most Mandela Effects, or at least theories. These usually relate to key factors and information regarding the subject mixed with a common memory bias or other psychological effect.
This list is by no means exhaustive and may not fit certain examples at all. It’s simply to be used as a guide to why some Mandela Effects exist in the first place failing any hard explanations on a given subject.
NOTE: For theories and explanations on ACTUAL Mandela Effects, please view the postings here.
That misinformation affects people’s reports of their own memory. I believe this to be a key factor in many Mandela Effects. Simply seeing the claim from another person may sway recollection of your own memory, especially if you lacked concrete or deep memories or connections to the subject to begin with.
The tendency to search for, interpret, or recall information in a way that confirms one’s beliefs or hypotheses. Those seeking Mandela Effects will often be more easily persuaded by other claims. And with such claims they may agree with, they will often discard any countering evidence or claims.
When information is retained in memory but the source of the memory is forgotten. This is sometimes present in Mandela Effects where we forget where we know something from or why it’s familiar, possibly leading to incorrect attribution of the original source confounding the confusion factor.
A form of misattribution where a memory is mistaken for imagination, because there is no subjective experience of it being a memory. Many Mandela Effects may have started out as imagination rather than real memories.
Facts cannot change; however, they can be revealed to be untrue or nonfactual, thus is the case with many things throughout human history. As science and technologically progresses, so does our understanding of the world around us. Unfortunately for us, our brain is not always built to accept new ideas and new facts. People who either intentionally, or unintentionally (they do not know the new information) can also spread these misconceptions, thus perpetuating these erroneous beliefs into society. This is how misconceptions are born and at the heart of many Mandela Effects.
A false memory is the psychological phenomenon in which a person recalls a memory that did not actually occur. It’s often cited with and has a strong connotation to some type of trauma such as sexual abuse and posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD). While it would be quite rare for Mandela Effects to originate as false memories, it could fit in those lesser known or less believed ones as the scenario would typically be very specific to the person with the false memory. Because of the trauma involved with these cases, the subject would be quite resistant to accept any new evidence in opposition of their belief as their brain has literally implanted this idea as a counter to protect itself from mental harm, thus introducing cognitive dissonance.
Cognitive dissonance not an explanation per se, but rather a by-product. It is one of the main causes for so many people to be so resistant to evidence and ideas contrary to their beliefs and memory. Cognitive dissonance can be the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. Please note the use of “can be” as there is many purists that don’t accept the broader definition and scope of cognitive dissonance applying to memory versus reality.
Confabulation is a disturbance of memory which produces fabricated, distorted, or misinterpreted memories about the world, without the explicit or conscious intention to deceive others. People who confabulate in this way produce incorrect memories about the most trivial details (as seen with most Mandela Effects) but range up to more complex fabrications as well. They are generally extremely confident in their recollections and will typically resist any contradictory evidence (possibly related to cognitive dissonance in this manner).
First of all, it’s always been Bearenstain, not stein. I remember being a kid and figuring out that I was wrong about it being stein. I think every kid at first thinks its stein for a w hile, and if you don’t eventually figure out that it’s actually stain as a kid then you will probably end up being a weird adult who insists it used to be stein.
But what gets me is the collective ignorance surrounding definitions of certain words. The most widely misused is the word ‘moot’. Besides the fact that some people think it’s ‘mute’, the people who refer to ‘moot points’ are referring to points that are no longer relevant because the subject has either already been decided or no longer matters due to other factors. But the actual definition of the word ‘moot’ is exactly the opposite. Moot actually means, “subject to debate, dispute, or uncertainty, and typically not admitting of a final decision.” So a moot point is a point that hasn’t been decided yet, but everyone uses it to mean a point that has been decided. Isn’t that weird? And there are others, like the word ‘peruse’. Most people think that if you’re ‘perusing’ a document it means you’re skimming over it, but ‘peruse’ actually means a thorough reading of a document, rather than a casual one.
Except, you are wrong in both cases. Yes, moot does have the meaning you specify but moot also means “of little or no practical value, meaning, or relevance.” Peruse also has multiple meanings, one being careful reading and the other meaning skimming. The irony here is that these words may have been misused enough in their original intent that the second, contrary definition now also applies, but these aren’t recent developments.
A word or phrase that is repeatedly misused can become so common that the incorrect usage is accepted by many; however, that absolutely does not render the original definition wrong. Chevdo’s definition of “peruse” was spot on. It means to study or read thoroughly.
Regardless, most people use the word to describe skimming over something. The fact that the latter is more common, only means that we use it incorrectly… alot 🙂
I was right in both case and you contradicted yourself, as your conclusion was correct, but your claim I was wrong was not. Yes of course you will find various dictionaries that will cite the wrong, popular definitions of moot and peruse, because unfortunately there are no ‘rules’ on how language evolves, so common mistakes frequently become accepted. Most of the time this isn’t a problem because the new meaning does not conflict with the old one. However, with words like moot and peruse, the common mistake is the exact opposite of the true meaning. You think this isn’t a problem? If your lawyer tells you to peruse a document, and you skim it, failing to glean the knowledge required to avoid some kind of financial catastrophe, and then you sue your lawyer claiming he didn’t tell you to thoroughly read the document, only ‘peruse’ it, how do you think that will go for you in court? While it’s true that 50% of the population is has below average intelligence, maybe it’s time the other 50% stop letting the dumb half call society’s shots all the time. But I suppose in a post-truth world that’s wishful thinking. So maybe it’s time smart people simply ignore what dumb people are doing, and carry on using words properly, forming informed opinions, and generally excelling in life.
I wish I had more intelligent people like you in my life. Unfortunately, I seem to be surrounded by the usual idiots.
The one that bothers me the most is the misuse (or unnecessary use) of the word, “literally.” It has been changed, even in some dictionaries, do you mean the exact opposite of what it was always intended to mean. People nowadays say idiotic things like, “my phone was literally ringing off the hook,” or, “that was so funny I literally died laughing.” Other times they simply use the word when it is obvious that they are speaking literally and therefore not necessary to emphasize that they were not speaking metaphorically or figuratively. For example, ” I was so cold I literally had to put my jacket on.” The idiots are taking over. They have been in control for a long time.
My 7 yr old would never use the word “literally” in the wrong context….but yes, I am drowning in the stupidity I see around me. Like the insistence the ME is real, even though it’s based on movies, ads, logos, history…..and especially because none of these things are remotely scientific, but the way the brain forms and stores memories is a fairly simple explanation and totally scientific.
I’m a psychologist, I honestly think 1) some people use this for narcississtic supply “I have access to these parallel universes up to 98%”-a narcississt I know 2) People have become so disconnected in our World today due to technology, people are grasping for something to say they have “shared” with other people, such as a “shared memory” or “shared ability to go back and forth between parallel universes” as I’ve seen people discuss and 3) Something more sinister behind it all….as another diversion tactic to keep people from paying attention to more important things. Because the media, movies, almost all the advert cases, history etc has the same people behind them, and motive.
I concur. But it is scary to live in a world where (more than 50%) of the population have ‘lost’ (most) of their mental faculties (minds) already. Maybe it’s always been this way and the internet is now exposing this fact. Perhaps it is the result of ‘the Illuminati’ using mass media (conspiracy theory) – as in ‘THEY’ are making this happen as part of the ‘plan’ to turn humans into mindless ‘consumers’ or something horrid like that .
But be that as it may, this ‘collective’ stupidity is kind of scary/surreal to say the least.
And by the way you will also find plenty of reputable dictionaries whose editors refuse to add contradictory definitions to words like moot and peruse, because they know better.
Yes, those idiots at Merriam-Webster still say that “moot” can mean obsolete…don’t they know that it only means what Chevdo says it means?
2 far more misused words in the English language are COW and BATTERY. You can’t call cattle a cow unless you observe it’s genitals to confirm that it is female. And you can’t call an AA battery that because it is actually a cell, whereas a battery is a group of cells. You can try to correct people, but U will rarely succeed. My guess is that 99.99% of people use these two words incorrectly.
With regard to the Mandela Effect, one of the most obvious explanations is that: if you repeat it loud enough and often enough it becomes the “truth”.
All of history’s most effective leaders knew this and consciously, specifically implement it to their great advantage…it is the foundation of religion, shamanism, racism, Nazis, Maoists, scientific dogma, stock market bubbles, etc. Mass delusions, rule of the mob, mass psychology, mass media, social media, now fake news & Trumpism.
Smart. I think there’s more to it than mass hypnosis, which is the foundation of everything you mentioned….or not. It’s quite powerful as history has proven!
Regarding the “battery”…you contradicted yourself on saying a group of cells is called a battery and a battery is a cell (singular). It can’t be both,
Same thing with cattle (plural) and cow (singular).
I remember “Looney Tunes” from my childhood (1980s) which you claim to be the modified version. It was still “Tunes” back then.
It’s you being english-speaking people that are the problem. When you heard “Looney Tunes” you “expected” the word to be “Toons” because it’s short for “Cartoons”. And it sounds similiar. So you have confabulated original “Looney Tunes” to be “Toons”. This is commonly happening.
Please also note that all of the Mandela effects always sound similiar to the original texts it’s never something completely out of place – e.g. “Hooney Worm” instead of “Looney Tunes”. Pretty much in the same way people write “their” instead or “they’re” or “there” in any possible combination. They think about the meaning but unconsciously use incorrect word to describe it. Same with “Toons” (short for “Cartoons”) instead of “Tunes”.
I remember it as having always been Looney Tunes as well. Your point about the expectation of how a word is spelled based on its phonetic pronunciation is the cause for many of the so-called Mandela Effects. It’s the same with misquotes from movies or TV shows, since a certain phrase that is repeated, parodied, and referenced over and over using the wrong version of the quote gets imprinted onour collective minds.
For Looney Tunes, though, it was always spelled “Tunes” since it was a parody of Disney’s Merrie Melodies cartoons, using an adjective and then a musical reference for both titles. (And yes, before anyone says anything about it, Disney’s was always spelled “Merrie” rather than “Merry.”)
Sorry, Disney’s was Silly Symphony, not Merrie Melodies, that was also Warner Bros. But the reason behind using Tunes was the same.
It was a counter to Silly Symphonies, not Merrie Melodies. MM and LT were made alongside one another.
I thought it was Marry Melodies since it married cartoons with music.
Just kidding. 🙂
Your explanation is correct except for two things: /1/ MERRIE MELODIES was created a year_later_ than LOONEY TUNES, and /2/ MERRIE MELODIES wasn’t by Disney, because both series were by Warner Brothers.
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_Tunes and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrie_Melodies for facts and sources on both.
You are missing the Oscar MAyer / Oscar MEyer Mandela effect. I definitely spent my last 40 years under the mistaken assumption it was MEYER, only to find i am far from alone
How could you miss the Oscar Mayer? “My bologna has a second name it’s M-a-y-e-r.” Richard D. Trentlage made sure it was etched in memory correctly. However, I’m sure there are millions who remember it as baloney…
The simplest explanation is very often the correct one.
So it is very easy to debunk most or even all of the current outlandish ‘Mandela’ theories. It’s more than likely all caused by a simple human ‘failing’ or consequence of our brains constantly trying to comprehend the world around us by taking shortcuts and filling in any blanks. For example, our eyes take in much more information than our brains can cope with and so our brains rationalise it all and see shapes in clouds etc etc.
One possibly excellent example of our brains in action, is the ‘Mandela’ scene in the Bond movie where the character ‘Jaws’ meets the love of his life. He smiles at her to reveal his metal teeth and she smiles back to reveal her braces and it’s love at first sight. That’s how many remember the scene, however… it didn’t happen. She had no braces.
Now, the producer missed a trick there because the scene would have made much more sense if she did have braces. So have our memories just re-compiled the scene to make it more rational?
But just one final point after all the debunking. Before ruling out any outlandish theories we also have to accept that science itself is in a state of confusion just now – and has been for 100 years or more. Particle physicists examining the minute world of everything around us have discovered a very real problem with our reality, something which just gets left hidden in the science cupboard so we don’t have to actually freak out about it. If you’ve not heard about this do some research!
I assume you are referring to the fact that our reality doesn’t actually exist? I came to grips with that at about age 10. lol. Consciousness is the only thing we should be studying, any physical aspects of the subatomic realm being tested outside the context of their direct interaction with some conscious based control, are pointless tests. Buuuuut what do we know right! Fuck the millions of people who are out there saying, “Ummm… really? At this point are you still not able to come to grips with this consciousness thing?” lol.
They are loosing control of the prisons reality and it’s enslaved souls are finally waking up and seeing what all true beings of light can. Achems razor or explanations of mass delision won’t work and are futile answers. Scientists aren’t desperate to find answers when science has hidden the the very cause for years. Mass religion and the dark sciences must face the reality they have choosen. Forever will they be locked in it. Prepare yourselves the children of light are here.
My personal experience. Always Been Oscar Meyer, Always been Fruit Loops, (What the hell is a Froot), Field of Dreams always said, If you build it, THEY will come. I put up a gym from scratch and I use to say that exact same saying because of that movie.
Here is proof.
https://youtu.be/aKZ8UBxTIqM
How about the end of the song by queen, We are the champions. Who can explain that, the bible passages where it changed from Lions to Wolves, I can go on and on but it serves no purpose as people are always going to hate, debunk or go against the grain.
Who’s going against the grain? The way memory works in the brain, totally scientific and proven. Advertising and movies….not a science. I was watching “…and the Oscar goes to” last night, and they showed that clip “If you build it, they will come”…..I don’t know what the other version allegedly is, but there are so many reasonable explanations I would have to rule out before going, OMG! I’m so weirded out!
One being movies are shot multiple ways, a scene can be shown multiple ways, & a famous line like that or the “box of chocolates” line are repeated so much in so many different areas of life, the brain will not remember both (it has more important things to do), so there you go.
Why are ALL of the ME movies, TV, advertising, history? That doesn’t give you a clue?
BTW, there are 2 verses in the Bible one is a lamb& wolf, the other more famous lamb & lion. Someone got their verses confused. I hear outlandish claims like this, the Bible didn’t change, someone’s memory did, they pointed it out, then people agreed (mass thinking)..
Just read how the brain forms memories and over time are subject to change.
This has been going on since the beginning of time, the only difference now is someone has decided to label it, freak people out, & become invested in it.
And explain ONE thing to me, why are all ME distant & shared? Why doesn’t someone say “I remember when my MOM DIED IN THE 80’s”….but she didn’t. No one had any emotional investment in Mandela, South Africa, his imprisonment, release, who has the Mandela Effect!!!! Ask any South African, 19 million voted in the FIRST DEMOCRATIC ELECTION EVER in their Country, I promise they won’t remember him dying in the 80’s!
Ask someone from New Zealand (or Iceland) if their country has moved recently. NO.
Another psychological trick the mind plays, when you make up your mind about something like the ME, when faced with evidence to the contrary, instead of changing your mind the mind will become MORE DETERMINED and work overtime to prove the original belief correct. (Hitler Germany, Stalin, Mussolini controlled their populations this way, in fact, all military operations depend on the unwavering belief of the soldiers and the belief of the people at home). It’s called many things, it’s surely mass thinking. That’s a scientific FACT.
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Seriously, please debunk the ‘Moonraker’ one.
Today I was asking a friend of mine who is also quite a movie-freak – and he ALSO swore that he remembers the scene with the young woman having a “metal mouth” – and also: I was counting on this!
Now, what the hell! the most rational explanation MUST be, that this is a kind of mass-delusion; like mass-hypnosis. I know of no other example.
Mandela effect is a psychological operation, some might remember it as CIA others NSA, spread through social media. It is a study in manipulation. People who thought Mandela died in prison may have conflated the death of another black leader like Steve Biko with Mandela since we are inclined in memory function to group things to recall them. If anyone was following events in South Africa then they would be fully aware of his rise to leadership of that country. As for the other examples, I note nothing of any consequence is offered up as an example, mostly trivial things that we do not spend much time focusing on, cultural background noise, the V W logo, the Chick-Fil-A logo, mirror mirror. The most interesting aspect is how easily people are being coopted to belief. My interest in conspiracy does not embrace Mandela effect but while I find credible evidence of cover up of 9 1 1 the Mandela effect theory smells of social manipulation via a psychological operation on social media.
There have always been subtle changes or shifts, most if not all can be attributed to trends that align regional, national to international branding.
The English language itself has diversity, many forms, it is not uncommon to hear and perceive incorectangular? WTF, Dam predictive texting.
Exercise rational thinking and stay off YouTube, especially if you have the susceptibility to fits of paranoia.
After 48hrs of studying the Mandela effect, i’m inspired by a few, but bored to death with the idiocy of most.
Take your flat earth, bernstein bears, volkswagon, predictive text and get a funking life.
If you worship a God, you just might not like want you find.
Peace.
The Mandela Effect MUST be a real thing because a very clear memory I have from the past has now changed into something completely different and I don’t know why.
I can distinctly recall years ago that the world WAS NOT overrun with gullible idiots. Or at least that’s what I thought.
But that’s now completely changed! Now it seems that the world IS overrun with gullible idiots.
Mic drop.
Another thought on Bearenstain vs Bearenstein, I recall in the early 1990s when the tv show Seinfeld was on, lots of people called it and him Steinfeld, because people were used to ‘stein’ but ‘sein’ is far less popular in names, so people were inclined to make the mistake of call him Steinfeld. Some even called him Steinfield, because ‘feld’ was too foreign for them. It took a long time, but nowadays everyone can say the name Seinfeld. I think the same thing happened with Bearenstain Bears, and that the effect is probably amplified in children who have so much less exposure to the world than adults do. So when we’re children we naturally call then Bearenstein, because that sounds right to us. And we never correct ourselves like we did with Seinfeld because once we grow out of Bearenstain Bears stories we don’t revisit them. The long process of fixing our mistake never happens like it did with Seinfeld…
I still hear people call the show Steinfeld constantly INCLUDING someone who swore up and down there was a “T” on the logo and they could picture it. They were 100% positive and they even had a couple of people who started to agree with them. Clearly they were wrong. On a much more obscure note, I had someone bet me $100 that a tiny-headed version of Krusty The Clown who in an episode of The Simpsons was called “Dancin’ Pete” instead of the correct “Smilin’ Pete”. In his mind the next line uttered by the Sea Captain which was, “he dances for nickels” convinced him the name was “Dancin’ Pete”. He was so confident he bet me $100 and I was $100 richer that day when I pulled out my DVDs to show him. This was prior to the ME so I imagine he’d just claim ME nowadays. All of this ME stuff is just the modern version of bar bets, if anyone is old enough to remember those days 🙂
When I was very young I asked my dad if Bernstein bears were German. Because he had a collection of beer steins from Germany. We were of German descent and everything German fascinated me at that time. First he corrected the child’s logic.
explained that not all beer steins were made in germany.The ending stein on surname was aJewish name then he explained that many Jews were German…and our talk continued to Irish surnames french names
Etc. I was a reader. I was handpicked top ten readers in state to be part of the pilot gifted progrm. Did I fabricate this memory? Did I ask my father anything about the bears? Did we not discuss surnames and nationality? We’re these all false memories? I can’t ask dad, he is dead. So I asked my brothers. Well they all looked at me like I was nuts and told me I shouldn’t believe what people post on the internet as fact. Someone is playing headgames with people like me. One brother is starwars freak and basically I was told I was nuts for believing berenstein bears is now spelled stain. And I’m an idiot for questioning life the universe and all that because somebody wants to say Darth Vader did not say luke. Go watch the movie if don’t remember him saying luke. Ya so now whatSooooo???
There’s actually a very simple explanation for the Mandela effect that seems to have been overlooked. I call it “memory compression.” In other words, the brain makes every effort to store memories as compactly and economically as possible. “mirror mirror” takes less effort to recall than “magic mirror.” Pikachu’s tail and both ears having a black tip is easier to recall than ears having a black tip and tail not. “Berenstein” makes a lot more sense than “Berenstain.” Note that NO proper name ends in “-stain” but many end in “-stein.” Human brains are not designed for perfect recall. They evolved to do a “good enough” job. The Mandela effect is an artifact of that design. Humans don’t need perfect recollection in order to reproduce effectively.
no it’s not the mandela effect its the TRUMP EFFECT
There are a couple of these I simply can’t explain away. Up until about 2010, I would have bet money that the children’s book was spelled Bernstein, not Berenstain. I used to collect those when I was a kid. If it was always stain then I would have said it that way. The new member of the village people is shocking to me. I never remember the military guy. Vader had always said “Luke, I am your father.” The original actor who played Vader said that he said Luke instead of “no.” Tony the Tiger looks weird with a blue nose now. I will admit that most of them are just my brain switching around information, but these examples I just can’t wrap my mind around.
My bologna has a first name its Oscar my bologna has a second name mayer cause Oscar mayer has a way with bologna
I would say it’s worth investigating a lot of recorded Mandela effects before you jump to conclusions on it being a case of human error. Don’t get me wrong, Im with Sagan on the whole “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” but you shouldn’t lump them all together. Evidence alone would be a starting point.
Speak Plain English first of all. The first paragraph let me know that you were trying to confuse people. The main Mandela facts are millions of people with memories that they grew up with not some other effects!!! I I used to eat Jiffy ( Always JIF???? NOOOO!!!!) penut butter, Specifically made mom buy it because I loved it) and Darth Vader said Luke I am your father not know I mean father!!!! But somehow all of us in the kitchen at work remember to Luke I am your father and when my friend watches VHS it is changed that’s the f*****-up part. Looking to sign into CERN and quantum computers but first of all just open your eyes and understand none of us understand we’re trying to figure it out
Oops speech to text, . But you got the point, Darth V said LUKE I am your father. Just look at the change in the human skull(eyes), look at the china rainbow mountains that where never there!!! look up Forrest Gump saying life Was a box of chocolates, Not IS a box of chocolates ?????. Come on now…..
Time travel has now been made possible and they are changing little things to see if it works and by the looks of it, its working..
Or certain things have happened that has changed all information (video, audio, words)
Both , in my opinion are related to CERN 🙂
As stated above, your telling me that all of us are going insane. Ive dismissed all the above possible reasons as cods wallop. The reasons are disinformation
Does anyone else feel like they kind of remember Michelle Obama running for president of the US and winning in 2016. I feel like I remember it being a super big deal and her not running against Trump (or him running at all).
But I ALSO vividly remember Trump vs Hillary. It’s like I have all the memories of two separate timelines.
Okay, then how do you explain this. It was posted on Reddit.
http://imgur.com/ApeMOxF
This image shows a TAPE where its spelled BERENSTEIN not BERENSTAIN
That is not made up by the mind. See it with your own eyes
look closely warren. it is spelled both ways on that tape
LOL – people will believe anything.
When I was very young I asked my dad if Bernstein bears were German. Because he had a collection of beer steins from Germany. We were of German descent and everything German fascinated me at that time. First he corrected the child’s logic.
explained that not all beer steins were made in germany.The ending stein on surname was aJewish name then he explained that many Jews were German…and our talk continued to Irish surnames french names
Etc. I was a reader. I was handpicked top ten readers in state to be part of the pilot gifted progrm. Did I fabricate this memory? Did I ask my father anything about the bears? Did we not discuss surnames and nationality? We’re these all false memories? I can’t ask dad, he is dead. So I asked my brothers. Well they all looked at me like I was nuts and told me I shouldn’t believe what people post on the internet as fact. Someone is playing headgames with people like me. One brother is starwars freak and basically I was told I was nuts for believing berenstein bears is now spelled stain. And I’m an idiot for questioning life the universe and all that because somebody wants to say Darth Vader did not say luke. Go watch the movie if don’t remember him saying luke. Ya so now whatSooooo???
Good example of your mind grasping at straws to put together a memory you didn’t feel was of great significants, is the thinker Mandela effect , ppl mistaken the statues stance and thinking he be tim tebowing it . Lol the mind is nuts. And omg ppl its been 50 states for almost 100 years. And you could have Googled that. If it had been I so called Mandela affect there would be no way to dubunk so all you had to do was grab a map of earth or globe then count the states for yourself . If there was ever 52 what are the two other states named? And for Americans everywhere plz don’t say Alaska and Hawaii for those are counted in the original and only 50 states. So to clear up , not a Mandela affect in the first place for the fact that you can find correct number of states just by counting since answer to how many states is always a number it always exists , in the question Volkswagen logo is v over a W or v over a W with space between the two . Answer is the second one . And is a mandela affect because if you google said first logo or search it you will not find such logo , it does not exist. So not an effect you ppl that thought was are dumb , if you that was affect and America had 52 states I beg you to wear a helmet when in public . It will save your life .
Two examples that go WAY beyond spelling. The first example is the theme song and intro to the TV. show The Fresh Prince of Bel Air. There is an entire section in the middle that has been added that was NEVER there before. See here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pVnDCZHuD-M
I’ve tried to find the original, can’t, doesn’t exist. So this isn’t just some extended version, the old version is just gone!
Next is the JFK assacination. Before you click on the link please first think about how many people you remember in the car and how many seats the car had. That’s all I’m going to say. See here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p2t3ScCOwY4
In reruns, TV show themes are very, very often cut down. You are remembering the version that played first run before it was cut. Simple.
I think another explanation to things like movie quotes could have something to do with the difference between scenes shown in a trailer and the scenes that actually wound up in the movie. Four instance, I remember when forced Gump first came out. I don’t remember if the exact quote was, “life IS like a box of chocolates,” or, “life WAS like a box of chocolates.” However, I do recall that when he said that in the trailer his mouth was not full of chocolates. In the final cut of the movie it was. Is it not also a possibility that when Star Wars first came out it showed a scene in the trailer where Darth Vader says, “Luke, I am your father,” rather than, “no, I am your father,” as it appeared in the final cut of the movie? It would make sense that people would remember the first rendition of a movie quote over the final version. Sort of the same thing happened when Tina Fey did an impression of Sarah Palin on SNL in which she said something about being able to see Russia from her house. This became commonly accepted in the media as being a Sarah Palin quote, rather than a Tina Fey quote.
OK, I take back what I said about Star Wars after realizing such a revelatory scene would not be show in a trailer. Duh.
I was introduced to this nincompoopery yesterday by two friends (or charlatans); who flit from one belief system to another – flat Earth. Next month they will believe some other nonsense on YouTube, and I will be told that every chocolate shake I have ever drunk has made me taller. Although, you have to view yourself on Earth; from the surface of the Moon, while wearing your jockeys on your head to experience the effect.
I systematically debunked everything they put forward championing the Mandela Effect, and it was a breeze. They didn’t even know the origins of the myth, or anyone attached to it.
I actually look forward to locking horns with the malleable acolytes of YouTube, as it’s an easy win; all day – every day.
They, and all other silly sausages – can bite my big bang.
Wow no one said that the pole reversal could be a possible theory As it is related to magnetic force’s around earth becoming unstable as they reversing as that energy is enough to get parallel dimensions to overlap each other creating the Mandela effect. This explains everything as its related to the earth changes that are happening already.
One cannot discount that there is a possibility that we live in a world that is NOT exactly what we think. For those of you calling people that believe the Mandela effect “idiots” and the like, you should open your minds. Seriously, everything in the Universe is a VAST mystery. From the activity of atoms and their energies (never mind that atoms are NOT tangible, and YET matter IS)——————open your minds, people. Step away from your everyday way of thinking. Physics is NOT logical.
Sure we can discount it. There’s no proof of it, at all. There is plenty of proof of physics. There is more than enough proof the fallibility of memory.
I am being as unbiased as possible… It is true that we may have overlooked simple spellings and spelt things the way we preferred etc…. Simple, psychological explanations…. For me personally, some things are eerily and disturbingly different now from my very clear memory of them. I think it’s happening…. subsequently some people are over sensationalizing and looking for “evidence”…. Both phenomena are true.
As far as Nelson Mandela goes, I think people confused his death with Steve Biko, who did die in prison. I remember there was an album for South Africa in the ’80s, with various artists. I believe there was a song about Biko and a song about Mandela (“Free Nelson Mandela”). I think people just got confused as the years went by.
Believe what you want? But really most not all people have been deluded of reality and have been forced by mis information from your wealthy 1%… If you believe reality is what you see then I am sorry to tell you you are so, so wrong… We know nothing of the real truth.. Maybe if some of you can think on your own just maybe things will change… Really “LOOK’ at what is told to you and don’t believe anything you are told and believe half of what you see???? Use your “Minds” and not just your brain? A huge difference…
If this was an isolated incident or only a few people or even 10k people than I would agree that its the memory and not anything else. But when you have thousands of people who remember the exact same thing, than theres got to be something to it. I did an experiment, where I went to people who know nothing about the Mandela Effect and I never mentioned anything about it. I asked them a series of questions regarding the spelling of certain words like Berenstain or Sex In the City etc. Each person spelled the words or remembered the incident the exact way the Mandela Effect says. Many of these people are Mothers or Fathers and swear they know that the word is Bernstein Bears, not Berenstain Bears and they all laugh at the ‘Stain’ part of the word and say its no way a Stain. The one that really gets me is the one from the Bible where the Sheep Shall lie with the Lions not the Wolves lol. I know preachers whose job it is to memorize words and one of their favorite verses is that very one. So, its sad that people would dismiss or criticize possibly millions of people who believe that there are some weird things happening. Like i said, if its a few than you can dismiss but its way too many who believe theres some anomaly or something strange happening.
I got interested in the Mandela effect because I also remember it being stein. What I find most interesting about it is the fact I am awful at spelling. That seems to be a trait shared with a lot of people claiming the Mandela effect is valid. That would be an interesting study, to see how many people who believe in the effect or just hold that false memory and their spelling rated to those who do not.
All the same it is a really fun idea, it would make a great comic book or tv series.
It looks like all meS have a better explanation than cern , how boring and disappointing. Still, that doesn’t mean parallel universes don’t exist, can someone debunk that idea?
I say it is fascinating and we need to know more about it. Whether it’s misremembering or a tear in time, it’s weird.
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The supposed change to movies such as Star Wars and Forest Gump can easily be explained.
In Forest Gump, the script said “Life is like a box of chocolates”, it was rehearsed this way and many takes used this line and this is also how it has been quoted in other sources. However, on the take actually used in the movie, Tom Hanks mistakenly said “was” instead of “is”; actors can often make these kind of errors. For whatever creative or technical reason, that was the take chosen regardless of the mistake; this can happen.
When the second three Star Wars movies came out, the first three movies were reedited and a new voice was used in places. It is possible that is when the change happened.
You can take an online test to see how Mandela Effected you are: www . alternatememories.com/test-yourself
Hey Sheeple. Explain JCPenny, Oscar Meyer and Fruit of the Loom to me and why it changed.. Nice try for the cover up.
If it’s such a conspiracy, why does it seem to only be inconsequentially the consumer products, only and not anything significant. Why is a very large group of people afraid of the same things, not a big deal, but mis remembering, is a group of people finding dimensional shifts in the space-time continuum, if not a conspiracy? If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then guess what? It’s not a dimensional shift in realities.
They haven’t “changed”. Have you not read anything on here? My prevailing notion is that people have good memory but the information was recorded incorrectly from the start. But this website offers many excellent explanations, none of which are disparaging to anyone.
In a manner of respect towards a great man, to which this “effect” so greatly disrespects, in the reasoning that was reached to call it, “The Mandela Effect”, could we all disregard and discard this great man’s name from this farce of an effect and identify it by the person, who self proclaimed such, on, again, a great man’s name and shall henceforth be called the “Broom Effect” as it was her doing of this hilarity of what is essentially, if not, basically, a mismemory. And salvage Mr. Nelson Mandela’s good name for what could be placed on a future, prestigious award?
If you look up old news papers from before 2012 you will see evedince of almost every Mandela effect being true. Also I do digital marketing so I can look up websites from years ago. And you will see evedince of life is like a box of chocolates and Luke I am your father. I have a perfect memory always did. I will need you guys to make up a better excuse the misremembering or false memories. Not saying I believe in parralel realities but I definitely don’t believe the ppl on totally oppisite sides of the globe could have the same exact memories.
As usual with reading posts, I am stunned by how disrespectful of other people some of us have become online, calling people you disagree with ‘idiots’, ‘Trumpians’, ‘Flat Earthers’ etc–things you would not have the courage to say to their face. Of course your own opinions are always ‘rational’…
I heard about this Mandela effect just a few days ago and have been doing research day and night. This site is a welcome find and brings things forward for me a lot. Many of these ME’s are indeed easy to falsify and yes we should choose simpler, rational explanations over elaborate, hypothetical schemes like alternate universes, but I also think that the ‘debunk everything’ crowd is missing out on some crucial possible realities that we are facing in this age of disinformation and deliberate population control. They seem to be unwilling to think outside of the box and admit to themselves how bad things have gotten over the decades in the America many of us grew up in. Many in positions of power in scientific institutions, academia, media, and government are afraid to say what they know lest they loose their jobs or worse. Those at the top are for most part socio-paths with no limiting effect of a real conscience (Clinton, Obama, Bush, Gore, George Soros, British Royals, Gates, Kissenger, etc). I believe many ‘conspiracy theories’ are quite real and require our immediate attention as citizens and as moral human beings. But my first red flag is when someone lumps ‘that stuff’ together to either support or deny ‘it’, which shows that they are not looking at things carefully at all. “Conspiracy Theory” is a documented CIA meme started to discredit truth seekers and divert attention away from its own nefarious activities. That is a documented fact.
Those of us who have been aware of massive public deceptions in the West for a while also realize that EVERY movement has been infiltrated and misdirected, even the ‘Truth’ movement. This is standard communist party procedure according to Lenin. So much that is on Youtube is indeed crap intentionally scriped at by CIA, Moussad, KGB, etc, to make ‘conspiracy’ seem crazy by conflating good, honest journalism and viable conclusions with silly nonsense like lizard aliens. These agencies are all devoted full-time to it. So when something like this Mandela Effect comes up, we need to be as critical as possible and see things from different angles before we jump on any particular bandwagon, lest we fall prey to their ill intent or just make of ourselves fools.
I was initially compelled when I first read about the Mandela Effect last week, enough to probe further, but after a little research one by one these initially compelling examples started dropping off the list. So I am now leaning towards this not being a crucial issue involving anything more than mass mistaken memory–though I am still keeping an open mind. I learned from many of the previous comments here on this post, though I again see the tendency to fall into camps: Those who are too gullible and don’t do any critical research at all, and those who still put faith in establishment ways of thinking and institutions like ‘Science’, ‘Big Pharma’ and ‘the Mainstream Media’, without recognizing how these institutions betray their own stated goals and no longer serve the people of the West and the great, European civilization that created them.
I do have a professional background in Philosophy, Critical Thinking, and Philosophy of Science. (And yes acamedia is hijacked by marxists via the Frankfurt school at Columbia). Most scientic breakthroughs have come about by people willing to challenge the established way of thinking. But they have had the evidence to compel their fellow scientists to their new theories–not just unverified claims. If theories of dark matter, string theory, quantum theory, etc are correct then we do live in a VERY counterintuitive universe(s)–one in which these sort of disturbances to the fabric of reality are indeed possibliites. This is true metaphysics in Aristotle’s sense of the term, but not of the Shirley Maclaine variety. So please let’s all move it forward in a positive way and try to get to the bottom of things together and with respect.
Let’s also consider that some ME experiencers have very good memories but read or heard the item in question incorrectly to begin with. Song lyrics especially come to mind. I routinely learn that I heard lyrics wrong in the first place. 10, 15, 20 years later, even having heard the lyrics dozens or even hundreds of times, I discover my error.
GIGO effect.
Hmm, I only remember it being Oscar Mayer. Fruit of the Loom sounds right. I remember Berenstain Bears though I was never much of a fan. As to whether it was “if you build it he/they will come”? Well, it was a whisper. I’m pretty sure I couldn’t tell exactly what it said. Later, when THEY come, it’s easy to go back and think, well, it wouldn’t make sense unless it said “they”.
I once had a memory of my Mom buying a matching chair and couch. Later, after she passed away, my father gave away the chair because he didn’t like it and I asked him where the couch was. He didn’t remember there ever being a matching couch. I, however, have a distinct visual image of it. After discussing it for a while, we figured out that she had bought the chair and couch together but, after a couple of weeks, decided to return it. He didn’t remember that whereas I had thought it had been around for a longer time than it was.
Memory is fungible.
Sooooo, basically the misinformation effect is essentially and big game of telephone?
When Nelson Mandela turned 70, there was a large tribute concert for him in London. He didn’t attend, of course, as he was in prison. This is what people are remembering when they think that Mandela died in the 80’s.
I’m watching matrix right now because the one that really got me was “what if I told you” quote that Morpheus apparently never said yet I there are memes everywhere using that quote for different comedic reasons
Right now I’m watching matrix again, not only did I believe that Morpheus said “what if I told you everything you thought was real, was all a lie” but there are thousands of memes using this quote to make jokes. Odd how that happened
Its like people thinking Ignorant means rude.
Some mainstream Mandela effects I can see others not but the ones that even made me aware of such a thing were my own experiences.
1) A road in the village where I live has been renamed but according to the internet and most of the village population it has always been the current name. A guy who works in the shop who grew up on that road and lived there 18 years confirms the name I remember plus the old name remains on Strava.
2) A couple of songs on my MP3 have changed, the versions I remember are nowhere to be found.
3) For me the Queen Elizabeth II Bridge at the Dartford tunnel didn’t exist until at least the mid 2000’s yet it has been in service since 1991. I remember specifically travelling to and from Brands Hatch in 2002 to watch some car racing including formula ford 1600’s and there being no bridge so had to use the tunnel both ways. A friend who used to go that way a lot also remembers it the same as me.
4) One of my friends who I hung around with a lot from 1996 – 1998 is now running a Kickboxing club and was at his peak during those years. I met him by chance again this year and am now an assistant instructor at his club as I have trained martial arts for years myself. Back in the 90’s I don’t remember him ever once mentioning kickboxing, his life was working lots of hours at a pub / restaurant then drinking lots, smoking pot and riding motorcycles. A mutual friend of ours remembers history the same as me. Also one or two of the places he claims to have trained at I also did briefly yet I never saw him there.
5) I recently started training again at a fairly high level club as I need to improve myself. The instructor remembered me from 2012 when I was there before but doesn’t remember anyone else who used to be there. The club is laid out totally different (maybe not Mandela to be fair) but everyone who was there previously is no longer.
6) My eyes have a black ring around the iris, 100% it wasn’t there before.
Maybe I’ve entered the Twilight Zone…..
So there is a fairly logically and reasonable explanation for every one of your examples